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their shopping list. are you one of them? plus this. >> shame on the nra! ban assault weapons now! >> remember her? she disrupted a live statement by the national rifle association. how did she sneak past that big sign -- how did she sneak that big sign past all that security? we'll ask her live. >>> politicians, dignitaries, and even a musician. cnn tallies your votes for the most intriguing person of the year and counts them down for u and a small kid making a big difference. this little girl wins a trip of a lifetime to paris, and her actions after that get support from the whole community. >> dear santa, i'm gabriela, the one with the tumor. this is my motto, and i think you should use it too. you might have a bad day today, but there's always a bright star to look forward to tomorrow. >> hear what she did to help dozens of other children fulfill their wishes. "newsroom" starts now. >>> good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for being with me. christians around the world are getting ready to celebrate christmas, which marks the birth of their lord and savior jesus christ. here
in the new year with no fiscal deal? details ahead. >>> and the nra calls for security guards at every school. what you didn't hear on the statement from the pro-gun group. >>> holiday havoc. slow go in parts of the country and in some places it could get worse. >>> pennies and nickels, worth the cost? >>> good morning, welcome to "weekends with alex witt." what is happening out there. ten days and counting. president obama and house speaker boehner left washington without reaching a deal on the fiscal cliff. before heading to hawaii, president obama said he met individually with leaders of the house and senate, asking them to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans. >> this is something within our capacity to solve. it doesn't take that much work. we just have to do the right thing. so call me a hopeless optimist, but i still think we can get it done. >> earlier in the day, speaker boehner held a news conference. a vote on his so-called plan "b" was scrapped thursday night when it became clear it did not have enough support among house republicans to secure p
. 30% saying it should be kept the same. some prominent democratic lawmakers who are nra supporters have shifted their opinions, as well. and now many are saying that it is time to bring back the ban on assault weapons. democratic congress woman elect elizabeth seti will be sworn in. clearly you just saw the numbers that have come out. those are very recent. and there is this notion that there is a ground swell, a shift. i don't know that that is true yet. these are numbers just immediately following a tragic incident that has been blanketing the news. how are lawmakers responding? not to suggest you are at capitol hill yet. what is your sense of what is happening down there? >> what i am hearing from colleagues around the country and from friends around the country and from parents right here in newtown that something has to be done. and i do think there are tipping points. i am a mother of three. i have been a room parent in the first grade classroom. and i think the image of these young children, of six year olds a week before the holidays is so heartbreaking that it is breaking
.c. not a deal was stirring, despite every plea. >>> more guns, that's the nra's solution for preventing another school massacre. all morning long, we put gun control in focus. >>> you know when your mind is stressed out, but what about your body? an nba cheerleading coach shows us how to stay relaxed during the holidays. >>> it is saturday, december 22nd, good morning, everyone. i'm randi kaye. and yes, we are still here. >>> and days before christmas, the airports have been packed while some highways are near empty. all signs of the severe weather in the midwest that is now heading east. the system that caused this blizzard in iowa and wisconsin traveled through ohio and is now hitting pennsylvania and upstate new york. now, there is another blizzard in the forecast, a warning is in effect right now for west virginia and north central maryland through 6:00 p.m. of course, with that severe weather can come travel delays and cancellations as millions travel for the holiday. victor blackwell is live this morning in the cleveland area. and victor, good morning, i bet you're missing your warm seat
laws? many former pro gun lawmakers say yes, but we still have not heard from the nra. >>> one of the new things the school shooter may have done socially was play video games. so is there a link between these types of games and aggressive behavior? one expert says yes. "newsroom" starts now. good morning. thank you for being with us today. i'm carol costello in atlanta. first a small step toward normally in newtown, connecticut. soledad o'brien joins us live. good morning, soledad. >> reporter: good morning to you, carol. as you said, classes resume today for most of the kids in this community, so many wrestling with so much heartbreak, all of the newtown schools except for sandy hook elementary will reopen. grief and the fears of returning students an additional concern. police officers will be at every single school and today the town will lay to rest, the grandmother of charlotte bacon says her 6-year-old granddaughter was a bundle of energy who loved dresses and a second, jessica rekos, loved horses, she wrote her own horse stories, excited about a pair of cowgirl boots sh
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was stirring despite every plea. >>> more guns. that's the nra's solution for preventing another school massacre. all morning long, we put gun control in focus. >>> a man with down syndrome beaten and pepper sprayed by police. the crime -- not turning around. the family joins us live. >>> good morning, everyone, i'm randi kaye. it is 10:00 on the east coast, 7:00 a.m. on the west. thank you very much for joining us this morning. we start with the national rifle association's plan to make school safer. armed guards. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> so while many in washington are calling for more gun controls, the nra wants to fight fire with fire in schools or maybe it's just the deterrent factor that they're hoping for. cnn national correspondent susan candiotti joining me from new york. is that the message that most people expected or wanted to hear from the nra? >> you know, everyone agrees that something needs to change, the question is, of course, is this the moment. armed guards in every school? we're getting different reactions to tha
slamming the nra calling the group's leader a gun nut and politicians divided along party lines with the thought of more guns in schools. >> i do not believe that those remarks represent anywhere near a significant portion of america. >> school safety is a complex issue with no simple no single solution but i believe trained, armed security is one key component among many that can provide the first line of difference as well as the last line of defense. >> reporter: the debate over semi-automatic weapons and high capacity magazines has raged since the shooting at sandy hook. a gallup poll found 53% agreed increasing police presence in schools would be very effective. a third said somewhat effective, 12% said not effective and 42% said banning the sale of automatic weapons and nor an third, 36% said it would not be effective. feel free to weigh in on my page at rick levanthol over the debate of gun rights and greater restrictions continues. >> heather: rick, thank you. >> gregg: search for justice in the benghazi, libya terror attacks. a scathing report placing blame squarely for
. ó >>> more on the fallout from the nra's comments. among the most controversial was the nra statement that violent video games, the media, movie and music are what is causing our kids to kill. >> the only way, the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> the nra says there is a simple solution to stop the gun violence: put armed guards in our nation's schools. but not everyone agrees with that and, tonight, people are still responding to that suggestion. >> we are breaking down their opinions. fox's rick leventhal has some numbers that might surprise you. >> reporter: after a week of silence, the national rifle association held a press conference friday, sparking even more debate. the nra has four million members, a strong pro gun organization with a power to vote and lobby for or against districter gun laws. after the sandy hook shooting when a trouble 20-year-old fired his way into an elementary school, using a semi
cincinnati newtown, we're hearing from chlt nra. >> and look out below. a landslide takes out a freight train. a camera captures the whole thing. look at that. good morning. welcome to "early start." >> it's nice to have you with us. it is 5:00 a.m. in the east. up first, systemic failures at the state department. that is a scathing conclusion of an independent review board investigating the deadly september 11th attack at the u.s. consulate in benghazi. ambassador chris stevens and three other americans were killed that day. the panel finding security in benghazi was grossly inadequate to cope with the attack, that washington ignored repeated requests to beef up personnel, and ultimately a lack of transparency, responsiveness and leadership senior levels both this washington and in libya. alise, what do you make of this report. a lot of these findings we've been talking about for a very long time. >> that's right, but also in the last few months, there's been so much politicization of this attack, especially with these talking points and the whole issue of susan rice, ambassador susan rice a
thanks for being with us. i want to start with this. your reaction to the nra and you heard of lapierre's statement to the nra. what's your thought on the plan put out there to put guns in schools. >> first, richard, thank you for having me. my reaction to the statement yesterday is that i'm disappointed, but not surprised, candidly, and i think we have to stay very focused here and not be put off by the kind of distraction that was put forth yesterday. we certainly need to have concrete plans to make sure our schools are safe, but the notion of adding more guns as a solution is wrong minded and we shouldn't be distracted by the comments yesterday. this is what i believe they were. >> how practical is the idea put forth? the department of labor saying that the average salary for a police officer is about $55,000. there's about 100,000 public schools across the country and it would mean $5 billion if the plan were to be carried out. >> i don't think there's anything more precious than our kids so we do need to make sure that we change and have plans to address school safety, but i don't
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of the nra said call me crazy. but doubling down on armed security guards in all schools. is that a good idea? we report and you decide. a special christmas message and have we forgotten the reason for the season? ♪ ♪ lso find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. i just served my mother-in-law your chicken noodle soup but she loved it so much... i told her it was homemade. everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my recipe [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >> rick: quick headliners. former president bush may not be home for christmas. the 41st president still needs to buildp his strength. he was hospitalized since november 23rd for a cough . final
that. >> how do you actually deal with that powerful lobby, the nra, the nra now saying that they are not yet in the debate. they'll comment with had they get all the information from this latest massacre. but we've already had some indications, congressman manchin who says, look, perhaps i will go ahead and suggest to my nra friends that they need to engage and need to take a different approach. is this the moment that that is even possible? >> i hope so because what i hope that we will do is now we'll start looking at facts rather than, you know, emotions. the time for emotions remains with regard to this horrific tragedy, but let's translate into action. and the action depends on facts. why do we have 15 times as much gun homicide as the rest of the world? what can we do about it? what can we learn from other countries that have dealt with some of these issues? why do countries like japan have these extraordinarily low rates of gun home skpooicide and gun ? if we can come up with something sensible -- and frankly, if has to be more far reaching. even the legislation p
dead. they say he set a trap for those firefighters. >>> the nra is standing tough on its opposition to new gun laws in the aftermath of the killings in newtown, connecticut. the ceo went on "meet the press" to defend his call for armed guards in every american school, but here's what a couple of front pages said about wane laperriere. one called him a gun nut and another one headlined with the crazy heest man on earth. laperriere he is not backing down. watch. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. i'll tell you what the american people -- i think the american people think it's crazy not to do it. >> there are several lawmakers who are promising to introduce new gun control legislation, and the president formed a new team to come up with ways to limit assault weapons. >>> an idaho senator is apologizing after he was charged with driving under the investment. they arrested senator michael crapo early yesterday after he ran a red light. he failed several field sobriety tests and his blood alcohol level
trainer you just saw, and a special education teacher who took that class. >>> the nra is saying schools should decide for themselves how to protect their children. here's what nra president david keen told carol costello yesterday. >> when wayne la pierre spoke about a week ago, he suggested that what has to happen and what should happen in every school district administrators, teachers, parents, should sit down and ask what is needed to protect the children in that school. some of them will want police officers there. others will want private security guards. there may be some places where they want volunteers to do it. we're willing to work with everybody on those questions. >> it's a much softer stance than just one week ago. here's what the nra's executive vp said back then. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> at the time, wayne lapierre said armed officers were the only way to prevent another massacre like the one that happened in newtown. >>> president obama summo
also a more on that in washington. how would the nra proposal work and who is going to pay for it? >> wayne lapeer the ceo of the nr. >> a says the group is proposing a voluntary program that would allow schools to bring in retired police, military or secret service agents to provide armed security. he says that will quote immediately make our children safe. what every mom and dad will make them feel better when they drop their kid off in school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy that if some horrible monster tries to do something they will be there. >> lapeer says the nra is working with former republican congressman and former deputy director asa hutchinson to develop a more security program that would include how it's paid for. >> jamie: certainly in the senate the democrats are in control. they have the white house too with president obama. how are they reacting to this? >> on the capitol hill the reaction has been less than enthusiastic especially from democrats. here is more. >> well, i think is he so extreme and so tone deaf that he actuall
on the nra. >> reporter: at nra headquarters in virginia on monday, an angry crowd. >> all: shame, shame, shame. >> reporter: hordes of activists protesting the gun lobby. and the debate ignited again. but those in support of the nra questioned whether the assault rifle used in the newtown massacre was really the issue. conservative columnist john fund called in yesterday. >> the bottom line is, the laws don't work. these mass killings are because of psychotic or mentally ill individuals. >> reporter: but some political leaders are fed up with the nation's gun violence. 34 americans are killed every day by firearms. >> this is just ridiculous. this is an outrage. we are killing each other. and we're the only industrialized country in the world doing it. >> reporter: the nation has fought this battle before. in 1994, congress passed an assault weapons ban, after a surge in gun violence across the nation. the law banned 18 types of rifles. but after ten years, it expired, as the gun lobby's power had grown. according to a university of pennsylvania study, the number of mass shootings did d
at some of these pro gun rights folks, nra, facebook, crickets have deactivated their facebook site, no tweets. not a lot from them the last couple of days. and we learned according to forbes, we'll have this conversation up next, the bushmaster rifle, a military-style rifle that the shooter used on friday, teachers may have been indirectly giving to this company that makes this rifle. that's next. and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen. >>> we are tracking the growing debate over possible new gun control laws. some
quote. the nra is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters, and we were shocked, sad, heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in newtown. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. nra saying it will hold a news conference on friday, one week to the day after the school shootings. martha: and the gun industry itself is facing an extreme backlash as a result of all of this and it is feeling it in the bottom lines. shares of major gun makers have dropped in the wake of the sandy hook shootings and the owner of the company that makes one of the weapons used in that tragedy says that they have decided to get out of the gun business. interesting developments here that reverberate all the way to wall street. stuart varney is the anchor of "varney & company" on the fox business network. stuart, how is tall this playing out in these companies? >> martha, there is a long list of backlash developments. start with this. cheaper than dirt.com, one of the largest internet gun sellers just announced it is
on a gun. >> that debate will rage on. we're expecting to hear from the nra, holding a press conference in washington later on today. today, john and certainly at 9:30, about this town, these people and these families. >> 9:30 a.m., a chance for us all to pause and remember. poppy harlow in newtown. >>> first lady michelle obama, writing an open letter published in "the hartford courant." as a mother of two young daughters, my heartaches for you and your families. like so many americans, wish there was something, anything, i could to say to ease your anguish." >>> a major news conference today. the national rifle association will share its ideas on how to prevent future gun tragedies in its first statement after the newtown shootings. they pledge to make "meaningful contributions" to help make sure it never happens again. >>> a u.s. citizen has reportedly been arrested in north korea, unclear what his crime may be. state media reports that the man entered north korea as a tourist on november 3rd. he was detained and they discovered evidence of some crime that he allegedly admitted to. m
association in washington. >> shame on the nra! >> reporter: speaking out for a political action committee, the group says the gun rights group is partly to blame for tragedies like newtown. but the executive director of gun owners of america thinks principals and teachers should carry guns to prevent tragedies like newtown. >> there are members of congress that would like to see the school zone gun ban done away with. and i think that's encouraging. >> reporter: pro-gun rights senator joe mansion of west virginia called on the gun industry to come together with congress to work on what he called a reasonable approach to curbing gun violence. he said all options should be on the table. cbs news, new york. >>> there is progress to report on fiscal cliff negotiations. two weeks from today, the painful series of spending cuts and tax increases will automatically go into effect if washington can't come up with a budget deal. late monday, though, we learned congressional republicans and the president are narrowing the gap in their differences. tara mergener is in washington with the latest. goo
it done? >> well, they probably don't have the votes today. it will be interesting to see what the nra who is going to be making press announcements tomorrow start to say and whether they start letting some members off the hook on assault weapons bans. i don't know if they will, but i can tell you this. the nra has four million members. you know, the campaigns like mayors against illegal guns and others, within a few weeks they are going to have four million members. this is just not going to be tolerated in the same way anymore. and senators like scott brown may end up being kind of the first test on this. he made that crafty statement because he opposed a federal bill in the past. >> you mean the state should have the responsibility. >> right. but he knew as a senator that it was never going to pass. he was the number one recipient of nra money in his campaign over this last year. a lot of senators are going to find themselves in the cross hairs because of taking all of that money and when he comes back to -- tries to come back to the senate, that may very well be a big issue. >> like jo
administration officials say they are ready. >> the nra is an organization that has members who are mothers and fathers. and i would expect that they have been impacted by this as well. and hopefully they will do some self-reflection. >> reporter: president obama made it clear today that he intends to use the bully pulpit to appeal to gun owners on this issue. wolf, it's still to be determined how much of a clash there could be with the nra over this. there is obviously some concern, though, and i think you can see that in just some of the lawmakers, the gun rights lawmakers who are coming out and sort of changing their tune on this issue. many of them, for instance, west virginia senator joe manchin doesn't have to worry about re-election until 2018. we've also heard from steve loutorette. he is retiring. maybe they are not the vulnerable ones and we haven't heard a lot from those who are. >> it was clear to me, brianna, and maybe you as well, the president really has been moved by what happened last friday morning in newtown, connecticut. and he wants to take action now because as one of
of gun owners who say, you know what? this time we've got to do things differently. >> what about the nra? >> well, the nra is an organization that has members who are mothers and fathers and i would expect that they have been impacted by this as well and hopefully they will do some self-reflection and. here's what we know. that any single gun law can't solve all these problems. we're going to have to look at mental health issues. we'll have to look at schools. there are going to be a whole range of things that joe's group looks at. we know that issues of gun safety will be an element of it. and, you know, what wave seen over the past 20 years, 15 years, is the sense that anything related to guns is somehow an encroachment on the second amendment. what we're looking for here is a thoughtful approach that says, we can preserve our second amendment, we can make sure that responsible gun owners are able to carry out their activities, but, that we're going to actually be serious about the safety side of this. that we're going to be serious about making sure that something like newtown or auro
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. and also, west virginia senator joe manchin also a democrat, also a longtime member of the nra, said that he has changed his position after the massacre and now supports gun control legislation. lawmakers are hearing today from more than 20 family members and victims of mass shootings across this country. those people all came together on capitol hill and decided they needed to meet with leaders in congress and leaders in the white house. they are demanding that they seriously address gun violence in america. each person who came had a very emotional story to share and they included a father whose 24-year-old son was killed in arepo aurora, colorado, who shielded his girlfriend who the shooter took so many. a mother gunned down on a chicago bus. a father lost his 15-year-old son during columbine tragedy. and the list went on and on. and the photos kept coming out. their message, about 32 people are killed every single day by guns in this country and that it has got to stop. >> today, there will be 32 more families that know the pain and or that you just heard here today. so we pay a
themselves on campus. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> the nra's blanket call to arm our schools is really nothing more than a distraction. >> reporter: as the debate in washington rages on, so do the classes on how to arm teachers in utah. >> we just want to make sure that people have the tools at their disposal to mitigate risk and save lives at the end of the day. >> reporter: this training was so popular, there's already another one planned for the next school break. for "good morning america," cecilia vega, abc news, los angeles. >>> switching gears, now, to how to lighten up the gloomy winter months? not just for us, but for your pets. apparently, it's all rooted in science. it turns out, your dog or your cat may be depressed. and the treatment that works for humans could also work for your pets. it's true. abc's dan harris has the story. >> reporter: of all the absurd things we do for our pets, the massages, the themed birthday parties, the treadmills, the high-end couture. the paris hilton $325,000 doghouse. >> inside is moldings and ligh
, this is the first time a female security officer has been involved. >>> the nra is not backing away from its call for armed officers in our nation's schools. and the group vows to fight any effort by congress to strengthen gun control laws. now congressman chris murphy, whose district includes newtown, calls the stance "tone deaf and revolting." >>> a real christmas gift, it would be getting to where you're going on time today. storms are causing major travel trouble throughout the nation. it's not only trying to get through snow-covered roads. rain and wind are grounding flights in the warmer parts of the country as well. >>> and finally, christmas will be a good time to do a little star-gazing. jupiter and the moon will be very close together in the sky and very bright. you'll be able to see them even in urban areas. the star of bethlehem may have been a similar astronomical event. i'm told you have to look to the east-southeast sky. wherever that may be. you'll see a bright silvery star. on christmas night. you can tell the children, it's santa returning to the north pole. >> will we be able t
. >>> the nra is not backing away from the call for armed officers in schools. congressman chris murphy, whose district includes newtown calls the stance tone deaf and revolting. >>> a rel christmas gift, getting to where you're going on time today. storms are causing major trouble. not only trying to get through snow-covered roads. rain and wind are grounding flights in warmer parts of the country as well. >>> finally, christmas a good time to do star-gazing. jupiter and the moon will be close together in the sky and very bright. you'll be able to see them even in urban areas. the star of bethlehem may have been a similar astronomical event. you have to look to the east southeast sky. wherever that may be. you can tell the children, it's santa returning to the north pole. >> will we be able to see it? >> we're going have a few clouds. other folks will be able to see it. >> there will be pictures of it. >> thanks for the debbie downer. >> the upper though? mom. mom. >> are you ready? >> i'm ready. >> let's do this. all right, here we go. we begin with the queen of engla england, 86 years young
weapon to hunt a deer. and the fact of the matter is the nra members up here are sane, thoughtful people who were mostly huntes and they don't want their guns about anned because they like hunting. i'm sympathetic to that. >> criminals will be able to get those things. the authorities need these, right? you are saying that members of the public you don't want any semi automatic -- >> let me tell you what happened in australia. in aus trail yab they had 18 school shootings before 1981. they banned these things. they had a buyback and they haven't had a big school shooting like this for i think it's 18 years. so, listen, this stuff works. i'm not looking to ban guns. i'm looking to have some common sense gun regulations that make some sense. i heard an nra guy one time from washington say he had the right to have a bazooka in his house fechted to. that's insane. david, one of the things we've talked about this morning is the idea of trying to use technology to solve some of these problems, including fingerprint technology where you would effectively lock a gun to a specific individual and
between the two extremes that exist in the country. one is the nra that believe if you can see lightning and hear thunder, you should own a gun and then the extreme left liberals that think we're just going to wave the magic wand and erase 300 million firearms that we have knowledge of today. you need to sit down in the middle. >> not going to happen. >> you're right. that's unfortunately the truth here. that's why in a sense we're spinning our wheels. there is a remedy to the problem. part of it revolves around our ability to properly vet people and continuous education with people and law enforcement, we are taught and it's impressed upon us the need to safeguard your weapons. the rest of america is on a whole another page. we're on one page, they're on another. we go through one vetting process, they go through basically none. this is the disconnect. >> lou? we're going to have to leave it there. i appreciate the conversation. and i know how you're feeling because i've met your kids. and i've met your wife and i'm sure you ugh hadded them a lot yesterday as well you should and lou pal
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